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MICHAEL KIRWAN
Part 1: Enfant Outré ...
by Joe Flazh! - metroG Art Editor
April 17, 2006
 

Publisher's Note: This article contains strong language and the photo gallery contains some adult images. If you are easily offended I suggest you refrain from reading any further.
 

metroG's Joe Flazh! with Michael Kirwan
metroG's Joe Flazh! with Michael Kirwan

 

"I don’t judge people. It’s not my job. But illustrating porn is my job, and I take pride in the fact that none of my randy little creations is debased, defamed or derided for being different. They’re horny, happy and human. I see each scene through each of the character’s eyes, and everybody always sees what they like."
~ Michael Kirwan

That statement of Mr. Kirwan’s, from his press materials for his October-November exhibit, "Girls Who Do: The Illustrations of Michael Kirwan" at The Erotic Museum in Hollywood, impressed me and sparked my curiosity to go back for a meticulous look at his work.

On first viewing Michael’s illustrations seem exaggerated cartoons of people in every conceivable type of sexual situation. They wantonly cavort in worlds without racism, sexism, ageism, economic prejudices, body image issues like, who’s got the biggest penis or breasts (in Michael’s world as everyone is exceptionally endowed.), where attractive people happily engage in raucous sex with downright ugly people, where fat people get to be intimate with perfect specimens, where physically challenged people are lusty with each other and regular people. Or Michael may depict situations that seem dark and threatening but turn out to be dark and exciting: where even a hardcore bible thumping Redneck or a dedicated gay basher, of any color, can indulge themselves in some repressed sexual fun and still walk away convinced they didn’t compromise themselves because they let another man "blow" them.

That’s what Michael means when he says he doesn’t judge people and that his randy little creations are never debased, demeaned or derided for being different. In Michael’s world there are no barriers or restrictions as to who can have sex and with whom.

Knowing this, I was really looking forward to meeting Michael at this exhibit, co-sponsored by the Tom Of Finland Foundation, November 17th in the beautiful upstairs gallery of The Erotic Museum.

Michael is a force: outrageous, outspoken with a persona as big and brash and colorful as his work, like a giant windmill coming at you at 300 mph with its rotor whirring out of control, he approaches, encased in a leather kilt, with a long, strawberry blond mane blowing wildly in the wind.

His energy is not undirected. Michael is an enormously funny and entertaining guy with a sarcastic wit that keeps a person engaged and laughing at the same time. Michael’s like a hybrid of Paul Lynde, Rip Taylor and Lief Erickson the mad Viking of yore.

Due to the graphic nature of Michael’s work we can only show you the tamer samples of what has made him a true star in the world of erotic art; so, please, have yourselves a unique experience and visit, www.kirwanarts.com.

JF! Michael, considering that you’re gay, and I see your gay artwork and it hits the correct homoerotic tone, how is it that you can accomplish the same result when you do heteroerotic art?

MK: Well, getting paid for it is a strong incentive. Seriously, it’s about men’s desires, and I know what men feel and what they want and how they respond to certain types of visual stimulations; plus there’s always a fantasy element for both men and women.

I spent many years as a somewhat straight guy; I was married for seven years. I have a son who’s in his thirties; so for a while, I was trying to do that "bi" thing. However, at 41, guys, 41 girls I went to 42 guys and 41 girls then 53 guys and 41 girls; and it dawned on me, that, "Hey, I might be a total cocksucker."

JF! Do you see a difference in the dynamics of gay and hetero relationships?

MK: Well, I do think that there’s more of a friendship, brotherhood, unspoken understanding among gay men; whereas with men and women I think there’s a bit more of a barter system that exists. Not that there’s anything wrong with that; however, I think women are not as sexually obsessed as men. Someone once said to me, back in the days when I was "Bi-ing" around, "Don’t you feel terrible if the girl doesn’t orgasm?" Who the hell cares?! That’s her problem; I’m not here for her; I’m here for me! Which is weird because in my "gay" sexual experiences, I’m definitely there for my partner.

JF! Is it important that "you" orgasm with your male partner?

MK: No, no, no! In fact, I prefer not to.

JF! Is it more for just the experience then?

MK: Yes, I like to savor and save it up and then think about it later on.

JF! Like a bank account?

MK: Yeah. My idea of a sexual encounter is where someone walks in the door, pulls down their pants, I suck their dick, they come, they pull their pants up and they say, "See you next week." To me, that’s perfect! All the other unnecessary stuff ….that’s why I prefer having sex with straight guys-- because they’re just happy to get a good blow job. With gay guys, a blow job turns into a fuck, turns into tying up, turns into whipping, turns into fisting, you know; it’s an eight hour ordeal! I’ve got television to watch; I’ve got cigarettes to smoke; I’ve got other things to do!

JF! In your opinion, is there more to your images than just sex?

MK: Yes. One of the things I really try to do with my artwork is give context to the characters. It’s not like they’re just waiting around all day to have sex. These are stolen moments, golden opportunities; so they appreciate them more.

I’ve seen artists that, you know…..you see this naked guy lying there and he’s beautiful and he’s sexy and he’s hot but, WHAT THE HELL ELSE DOES HE DO?!! Why is he in bed at 4 o’clock in the afternoon? Why is he lying around with his legs spread; doesn’t he have anything else to do?

JF! What’s your assumption?

MK: My assumption is that he’s a crashing bore or a prostitute. I want my characters to look like, ‘This is our moment and we’ve got to grab it, take it, and celebrate it, whether it’s the gays or the straights. It’s also about choices: just like I can say, "I can either go this way and be a chicken shit, or I can roll the dice and jump right in."

I like that right before the act there’s still the possibility of pulling back. The actual sex act is not that interesting to me, the before-and-after definitely has the tension, the emotional investment, the insecurities rising to the top; and I want to get all of that because sex isn’t just wonderful; it’s also annoying, taxing, messy and, sometimes, irresponsible. Nonetheless, it’s still beautiful.

JF! Is that what you’re approaching in your work?

MK: That’s exactly it! Also, I went out of my way to give the women in my drawings an agenda. (At this moment a camera crew got noisy and Michael, with hands a flaying and full of attitude yells, "Hey, we’re taping here, you ass wipes!)…I didn’t want the women to be vacant vessels for the men to pour their lust into.

JF! Your women do look very strong both in character and physical strength.

MK: I determined, early on, that I’m never going to make anybody a victim.

Coming up in Part II of "Enfant Outré" is the work that Michael considers his most controversial, and I have to agree, in the Flazh!Foto Gallery.


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MICHAEL KIRWAN
Part 2: Enfant Outré ...
by Joe Flazh! - metroG Art Editor
May 15, 2006
 

Publisher's Note: This article contains strong language and the photo gallery contains some adult images. If you are easily offended I suggest you refrain from reading any further.
 

metroG's Joe Flazh! with Michael Kirwan
metroG's Joe Flazh! with Michael Kirwan
 

JF! How do you differentiate between your straight and gay images?

MK: As I said, in the straight ones, there’s more of that "barter" arrangement/relationship. I tend to create detailed biographies; whereas with the gays, I’m more focused on the "gay" identity.

JF! Isn’t there a bartering system with gay men too?

MK: No, because you’re not going to get anything from a guy. Guys don’t give anything.

JF! That’s not true, why do you say that?

MK: Men shouldn’t have to oh, I don’t know,,,,,pay for it. Listen, I have no trouble paying for it, I’ve done it myself.

JF! From the classifieds in the gay mags?

MK: Mostly Go-Go Boys. I don’t mind over tipping so I can get in their pants. Even with that, it’s not the same emotional bartering that comes with women. You can’t fuck a woman unless you tell her you love her; whether you mean it or not, it’s gotta sound like it. For men it’s more like, "Let’s kill some time together; let’s have some fun; let’s celebrate our masculinity in this "act."

Men and women are completely different. Men are all the same, we’re all pigs!

JF! How did this show come about and why is it focused on your heterosexual imagery?

MK: Durk Dehner (Foundation Director) and Sharp (Secretary) of the Tom Of Finland Foundation, who are primarily known for promoting gay erotic art, wanted to start promoting straight erotic art too. So I agreed to let them have all 300 of my straight images that I’ve created over the last 15 years.

JF! You gifted all your straight works to TOFF?!!

MK: Yes. And all the proceeds go to TOFF’s Marcello Lupetti Artists Fund. Marcello was a sculptor from South America, now deceased, and the fund is designed to help artists who’ve fallen on hard financial times and/or personal crisis. It’s a way that I can contribute to help take care of my fellow artists in need.

JF! So, where are you going next with your erotic works?

MK: I’ll be working for, "Over 40" Magazine which is about women over 40. Also, a series of crosshatched metallic ink drawings, sexual situations, for guys and another series of "Empty Underwear" that has the impressions of the dick still in them which I’ll, eventually, take into sculpture.

JF! Do you work with models?

MK: No, I never work with models. I have no interest in real people. If I was going to do real people, I’d pick up a camera. I want my people to represent real people but not be them. I don’t work from any types of reference materials. Everything comes straight out of my head, including the environments and all the inanimate objects portrayed. My people are not specific people because I want the people looking at them to be able to see themselves in my works.

JF! So you use your memory exclusively?

MK: Uh, oh….god, my memory isn’t what it used to be. I spent a lot of time in the dark, all the worst for my knees, I didn’t see that much.

JF! What’s the most controversial piece you’ve done?

MK: Probably, this one, "Groom."

JF! Oh My God! This is dealing with…..why, why did you want to do this?

"Groom" - Full View!
"Groom"

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MK: I think it’s romantic.

JF! These are two… how would you describe it? (See "Groom" in The Flazh!Foto Gallery.)

MK: Well, it’s a guy who’s obviously been in the war and had to have both of his arms amputated, and he has a dwarf lover who’s going to help him out in performing a necessary task that we all take for granted. It’s about love and devotion.

JF! Is this going to be the start of a new series?

MK: No, no. For the most part, once I do one thing, I try never to repeat it.

JF! What’s been the reaction to "Groom??"

MK: Some people love it, some hate it, some are shocked, some don’t get it, or want to get it. To me, this is beautiful, loving, sweet and hot! These two men are there to serve each other. That’s about as controversial as I get. I’m pretty much obscene about everything else, and even though I did the whips and chains on occasion, that’s not what I’m all about. I want the personalities to be the focus and the interaction between people, and not between people and things.

JF! I want to ask you something (pointing to his kilt), is this about a private club for men who like to wear kilts?

MK: No, it’s about freedom. Luckily, because I work for myself, I can have long hair and wear a kilt if I want. It’s very freeing and liberating as well as a very enjoyable thing to wear.

JF! Can I ask you an age old question?

MK: You can and I’ll tell you my, up to the minute response, I have underwear on. If I was hung like HIM (pointing at Sharp, also wearing a kilt) I would not have underwear on!

JF! Can we get a photo of that?

MK: What, of his wiener?

JF! Under his kilt?

MK: I don’t know; do you have a wide angle lens?

JF! Really? Damn, I left it at home. I have a fish eye lens as well.

MK: Laughing in a particularly lascivious manner that’s so infectious it gets me laughing with him.

JF! Ha,ha,ha! And he’s so modest. I’ve never heard him brag about it and I’ve known him for quite a while.

MK: Really? He put a dog’s eye out with that thing.

JF! Time to go.


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